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  JWs: not creationists but believe in creation...

  by TheStumbler in

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  i've been having a bit of an email exchange with elder dad and i need some advice.

  i thought i was getting through to him but i think my criticism and tone became a bit too strident in my last email and now he thinks that i am attacking him personally.

  i think he has dismissed everything i said because he perceived me as 'overally critical, and rude.. .

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  No, he was clutching at semantic straws. Your pointing it out showed your upper hand.

  All you can hope for is that you planted a seed. It is just a trivial thing for sure, but every JW is quite invested I the JWs being right about EVERYTHING. To be wrong without the FDS saying so would show a lack of holy guidance.

  You may have pissed him off, and you definitely attacked his cult personality which is a huge no-no. Don't expect to get anywhere with this approach. If you were about to speak like this without him screaming and runnign away, you may be able to plant more seeds without activating his cult persona.
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  Have you ever given CoC to a JW to read? Or any other "red pill" book?

  by Captain Obvious in

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  i recently ordered a copy of coc for my wife.

  she doesn't know it exists, but i'm hoping she's ready to read it.

  it seems to be the best red pill out there.

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  OnTheWayOut: you've been on the forum since '06.. Have you been able to make any progress? How did family and your wife react when you quit going to meetings?
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  BEARDS: Why JW men don't have them

  by 00DAD in

  1. watchtower
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  i know this has been dished over before, but when i was doing some research i discovered a couple of interesting points.

  as far as i can find, there is only one wt article that implies that jw men should not have beards.

  *** w75 8/15 pp.

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  Aww c'mon. Didn't the mythical Jesus character have an awesome beard?

  Come to think of it, I haven't shaved in weeks. I prefer to keep a good 2 weeks of growth on at least. I only shave when I pretend to go to the meeting!
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  JWs: not creationists but believe in creation...

  by TheStumbler in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been having a bit of an email exchange with elder dad and i need some advice.

  i thought i was getting through to him but i think my criticism and tone became a bit too strident in my last email and now he thinks that i am attacking him personally.

  i think he has dismissed everything i said because he perceived me as 'overally critical, and rude.. .

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  Woooah.... Cool it bud. You may have overdone it. Look from his POV. Someone whom he taught to "love Jehovah" is now talking crazy shit. You want to keep the lines of communication open, hoping he will see the truth. After no time at all, he sends you emails that are thousands of words long, basically repeating themselves. Whether you agree or not, clearly his brain is infected with demonic apostate teachings and he must be cut off.

  I know it's harsh to say, but that may well have been what's happened here. An active JW ONLY wants to keep the lines of communication open just enough to help and "encourage" the person. If that person tries to infect you with their apostate diseased demonic teachings, you must protect yourself and cut him off. It's the only way the WT can retain such control over its members.
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  Jesus 1000 years and Satan's 1000 years in the abyss

  by berrygerry in

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  2. bible

  the thread about satan in the abyss for 1000 years prompts a question.. jesus will rule for 1000 years.. jesus began ruling in 1914, which means his 1000 year reign will end in 2914.. satan will be abyssed for 1000 years.. if the end comes in 2020, satan will be abyssed in 2020, and then released in 3020.. what happens between 2914 and 3020?.

  honest question..

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  Then why was the 100 (so far) year reign in between the two events not foretold? According to JW lore
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  Have you ever given CoC to a JW to read? Or any other "red pill" book?

  by Captain Obvious in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i recently ordered a copy of coc for my wife.

  she doesn't know it exists, but i'm hoping she's ready to read it.

  it seems to be the best red pill out there.

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  Thanks for your input. From your experiences I'm not 100% sure she's ready. She's just sort of clinging on for family and friends. She's afraid of what leaving will do to our lives. She still believes, but knows there's a real reason why I left.

  She knows she needs to be doing research, but fear is holding her back from starting. She needs to inform herself and make a decision quickly, I can thang on much longer pretending to be a JW and living a lie.

  What else would be good to help open her eyes? Yes I've read Hassan's books and use his methods but seem to be stuck. We've watched The Unbelievers documentary (her idea) and most of Cosmos but still isn't convinced. Been convinced by the WT to distrust science. I think the next time the subject comes up I may direct her towards JWfacts. I've avoided this in the past, waiting for her to start looking on her own.. Which isn't happening so far.
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  Have you ever given CoC to a JW to read? Or any other "red pill" book?

  by Captain Obvious in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i recently ordered a copy of coc for my wife.

  she doesn't know it exists, but i'm hoping she's ready to read it.

  it seems to be the best red pill out there.

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  Captain Obvious

  I recently ordered a copy of CoC for my wife. She doesn't know it exists, but I'm hoping she's ready to read it.

  Have any of you done that before? What was the reaction/result? It seems to be the best red pill out there.

  Let's talk red pills. For me it was researching info on 607. Pretty soon I was reading JW facts, and that was it. Go right for the jugular.

  What was your red pill? How did you find it?
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  Jesus 1000 years and Satan's 1000 years in the abyss

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the thread about satan in the abyss for 1000 years prompts a question.. jesus will rule for 1000 years.. jesus began ruling in 1914, which means his 1000 year reign will end in 2914.. satan will be abyssed for 1000 years.. if the end comes in 2020, satan will be abyssed in 2020, and then released in 3020.. what happens between 2914 and 3020?.

  honest question..

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  Soo.. If the millennium is still future, and must be so to match Satan's Abyssing.. Then the bible is wrong. It is not a millennial reign.

  If the millennial reign really is for a millennium and that is the same 1000 years that Satan is abyssed, then the WT is wrong.

  How can that be?
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  A chilling reminder of the danger of cults: May this never happen again

  by kneehighmiah in

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  https://www.yahoo.com/news/3-decades-later-remains-jonestown-bodies-found-203438454.html.

  remains of people's temple cult members still unclaimed.

  very sad tragedy.

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  As gross as it is, the WT has claimed so many more lives. Of course a JW will try and argue this point, I think it's a good parallel to draw with them. The Jonestown massacre was people killing themselves for their faith in their leader. A JW who refuses medical treatment is just the same.

  The most chilling are photos that show dead children at Jonestown. Almost as disturbing as this Awake cover.
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  Read any good books lately?

  by Berengaria in

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  well, have you punk?.

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  Captain Obvious

  Just started reading Leo Tolstoy. Excellent